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About HyperNews

About HyperNews

Starting here you should be able to find HyperNews forums about HyperNews itself. If you are looking for forums on other topics, please see the HyperNews Home Page.

Read the instructions for how to add messages, if it is not obvious. A good place to try this out is the HyperNews Test page, but if you want to say anything substantial, consider adding to the Guestbook or one of the other HyperNews pages.

You can install the HyperNews Source on your own site to run your own forums. Subscribe to the HyperNews History forum to be notified about new versions. I've got a lot of ideas that still need implementation.

If you have a problem with any aspect of HyperNews, please add a message on the bugs page if you can, or email me about it (liberte@hypernews.org). Please be aware that I cannot help much with problems at other HyperNews sites.

Forums About HyperNews

These are forums about HyperNews itself. Find the most appropriate forum to post a message about some aspect of HyperNews.

A Brief Overview

HyperNews is a cross between the hypermedia of the WWW and Usenet News. Readers can browse through the messages written by other people and reply to those messages. A forum (also called a base article) holds a tree of these messages, displayed as an indented outline that shows how the messages are related (i.e. all replies to a message are listed under it and indented). Users can become members of HyperNews or subscribe to a forum in order to get email whenever a message is posted, so they don't have to check if anything new has been added. A recipient can then send a reply email back to HyperNews, rather than finding a browser to write a reply, and HyperNews then places the message in the appropriate forum.

Currently there is not a gateway to Usenet News (but see discussion on that issue). Rather, forums and messages are maintained on a web server. Unlike most news servers, messages never expire (unless an automatic expiration feature is enabled). But like usenet articles, HyperNews messages may not be edited after being "posted". However, there are many applications where it makes sense to allow editing, so we would like to add support for that.

The source for HyperNews is avaiable to anyone who wants to download it. Please read the installation instructions and bug reporting forums.

There are several related WWW projects on collaboration that allow feedback from readers on the web.

HyperNews is not intended to be a centralized service, and not all forums are on one machine (many other HyperNews servers have been set up - see the list). Everyone is invited to install the HyperNews Source on their own server to begin distributing forums more widely. Distributing the forums will distribute the load and make HyperNews more scalable. Caching and replication would also help, but that will be required to make the WWW scalable in any case.

Contrary to appearances, HyperNews does not modify pages to append replies. Instead, the HyperNews "get" script fetches and returns the body of the forum or message with the tree of reply messages appended dynamically.

Current Scheme

HyperNews forums are hierarchically structured. A forum is considered the 0th level of the hierarchy. The top-level messages for the forum are the 1st level - they are considered replies to the forum. Replies to those messages are at the 2nd level, etc.

Each message is numbered, starting at 1 within each HyperNews node (a forum or message). All messages under a forum or message are in a subdirectory, and each message has a file containing information about the message named "<number>.html,urc". The body of a message is in the file named "<number>-body.html". A file of pregenerated message lines is named "<number>/responses.html".

A URL to a message looks like: ".../HyperNews/get/baseArticle/3/10/2.html". The "get" script looks up the information about the message, generates the HTML for the message body and the outline of reply messages, if any.

The "Add Message" button at the bottom of the page is the general way to add any kind of messages: replies, questions, whatever.

Another Overview of HyperNews was prepared for a talk on collaboration technologies. Another outline of HyperNews Features is also available. HyperNews is HyperDiscussion is a forum that lists several interesting uses of HyperNews, most oriented around education.

Other Articles About HyperNews

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This HyperNews is not related to several other programs or systems with the same or similar name:

HyperNews supports caching. You should too. Cache Now!


Messages on this forum should be about the organization of this page and the index of HyperNews forums.


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38 Problems with new caching clients and HyperNews by Thomas Pfarr, 1995, Mar 23
1 HyperNews needs to adapt by Daniel LaLiberte, 1995, Mar 24
42 Solving the by Brett Kottmann, 1995, Mar 30
2 ... censorship problem? by Daniel LaLiberte, 1995, Mar 30
1 By locating the source site in a non-litigating country by bkottman@erinet.com, 1995, Apr 12
...
2 Question: censorship by Horace , 2000, Oct 29
... 1 Message(s)
54 Netscape Extensions to HyperNews (including code) by Elliotte Rusty Harold, 1995, May 08
55 Using HyperNews as a moderated bbs? by Mike Cosaboom, 1995, May 09
1 Agree: I'd like to know about this, too! by James Shuman, 1996, Apr 25
1 None: 1993 by 1993, 2001, Sep 16
2 None: 1994 qwerty by ssn3009@yahoo.com, 2001, Sep 16
64 Expiration of old messages by David E. Athey, 1995, Jun 09
1 Agree: Expiration of old messages by Kevin Kadow, 1995, Oct 04
1 Idea: Maybe with cron by Sebastian.Boschert@stuttgart.netsurf.de, 1997, Oct 03
2 Question: Does anyone have a solution yet? by dave@bensoft.com, 1997, Oct 15
... 2 Message(s)
73 The Electronic Town-Hall has Arrived! by Ben Tremblay, 1995, Jun 23
74 HyperNews as a BBS? by adam kepecs, 1995, Jun 23
1 Untitled by Sam Przyswa, 1995, Nov 12
4 Question: Does BBS mean a moderated group ? by neal@oecd.org, 1996, May 17
5 Idea: HyperNews as BBS -- private web site. by Dan, 1997, Oct 21
75 Great Job! by Anderson E. Reed, 1995, Jun 23
1 Thanks by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Apr 17
2 Angry: this my mensage by Julanito@juana.uusa.edu, 1997, Jun 11
87 Question: Can HyperNews be run on a stand alone PC? by David Rock, 1995, Aug 01
1 No, and yes by pwiseman@mindspring.com, 1995, Aug 04
97 Speeding up HyperNews by Kwang han, TAN, 1995, Oct 09
1 Feedback: What's slow? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1995, Oct 10
(_ Feedback: Images are slow! by nick@mail.esrin.esa.it, 1995, Nov 10
(_ None: Test-only viewing by star@starshine.org, 1997, Feb 01
(_ None: Text-only works OK by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Feb 03
101 HyperNews / Web Conferencing Host Site Wanted by Michael Reeder, 1995, Oct 26
1 News: We would be glad to host your forums by Craig Johnson, 1996, Feb 07
2 Feedback: APC Web Pro Conferencing by Richard Lientz, 2001, Apr 30
106 Similar system, inspired by HN, uses backend databases by Georges, 1995, Nov 22
118 Hyper News in Java? by bob massey, 1996, Jan 11
1 Feedback: Can't do it in JavaScript by simsong@acm.org, 1996, Jan 29
(_ Disagree: But perl is ugly and Java is elegant. by Toshi Kosaka, 1997, Jan 06
1 Disagree: But perl is fast and Java is slow , 1997, Mar 22
... 1 Message(s)
2 None: Java is easy Perl is not by troxel@sammcgees.com, 1998, Jan 12
5 Disagree: Ha! Java sucks, PERL kicks its ass and is easier to write by bothanspy@emailchoice.com, 2000, Mar 12
123 News: Marathon HyperNews site. by Kenneth C. Schalk, 1996, Feb 02
152 None: NT Server HYPERNEWS by Sean Johnston, 1996, Apr 29
1 None: Allaire Forums by Dan Beer, 1996, Apr 29
1 Question: Hello. Where are these elusive forums and how can I sieze and test them? by kingb@dfo-mpo.gc.ca, 1998, Sep 22
2 Feedback: HyperNews on NT Server by Dan, 1997, Oct 21
1 None: Port to NT is not so easy by dlaliberte@gte.com, 1997, Oct 22
2 Question: But I heard that perl is not good! by Huong Nguyen, 2000, Sep 30
157 News: http://stockclub.com/ Hypernews forums on stocks , 1996, May 13
160 None: HELP THE THREADS!!!!! , 1996, May 17
162 News: New HyperNews site for Linux kernel hackers by michaelkjohnson, 1996, May 18
165 Question: Firm's Offering HyperNews Services? , 1996, May 23
1 Feedback: Not that I know of, but... by jtara@stockclub.com, 1996, May 28
(_ News: Yea, were out here hiding from you :-> by bryan@bcpub.com, 1996, Aug 13
171 Question: New NT 4.0 server. How do we get a hypernews newsgroup setup? , 1996, Jun 15
177 Question: HELP NEEDED for setting up HyperNews by Gary Lin, 1996, Jul 02
1 Question: i really need help by bankal@msn.com, 1997, Mar 21
180 None: HyperNews as an Announcement System? by BEMason, 1996, Jul 10
1 None: Not ideal by Daniel LaLiberte, 1996, Jul 10
(_ None: Announcement System by bemason@fnal.gov, 1996, Jul 10
183 None: Hypernews in French ? by I. Dresse, 1996, Aug 01
1 Idea: Yes by jfiger@ecom.cgs.fr, 1996, Aug 22
(_ Question: Where? by trc@auracom.com, 1997, Jan 25
185 Question: HELP wanted to setup HyperNews on UNIX server by B. Raven, 1996, Aug 02
1 Sad: Help still wanted by scandy@info1.com, 1996, Oct 08
3 Feedback: what do you want? by isal@vergina.eng.auth.gr, 1996, Oct 13
1 Question: Need Installation ASAP on Netscape Commercial Server by johnpike@fas.org, 1996, Oct 18
... 1 Message(s)
4 None: HyperNews Version: 1.9.5 and Apache/1.2b8 by Aimee Abbott, 1997, May 16
187 None: Looking for host/sponsor of new HyperNews group by Walt Carroll, 1996, Aug 05
188 Idea: Version 2.0 of HyperNews? by Dylan Greene, 1996, Aug 19
1 None: Maybe version 1.10? by liberte@hypernews.org, 1996, Aug 19
189 Question: HyperNews in German? by Georg Heßmann, 1996, Aug 27
204 Idea: Reporting Facilities by Ari Jort, 1996, Oct 09
1 None: Interesting idea by Daniel LaLiberte , 1996, Nov 13
1 Feedback: getting back in touch by arijort@pingsite.com, 1997, May 30
... 1 Message(s)
2 Question: Is automatic digesting possible now? by vsaljuki@nsf.gov, 1999, May 18
... 1 Message(s)
224 News: Vision of the learner by Denis, 1996, Dec 20
231 Question: Hypernews as a Problem Reporting/Tracking System by george, 1997, Feb 11
1 None: Maybe by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Feb 11
(_ More: Untitled by georgec@ti.com, 1997, Feb 11
(_ None: Attributes, Sorting, Usenet by liberte@hypernews.org, 1997, Feb 11
235 Question: authentication via cgi rather than .htaccess by Ari Jort, 1997, Feb 20
281 None: Another Site Using HyperNews by Christopher Sawtell, 1997, Aug 23
285 News: BayCHI goes online with HyperNews by Bob Weissman, 1997, Aug 26
295 Question: HELP FOR INSTALLATION OF HYPERNES by Kinnari form India, 1997, Sep 20
297 Question: REVERSING MESSAGES by SCOTT BOSSI, 1997, Oct 15
1 None: Delayed reaction by dlaliberte@gte.com, 1997, Oct 15
298 Question: NEED HELP! "Internal Server Error" by Moon, Young-Jin, 1997, Oct 16
301 Question: Duplicate entry problem by Scott, 1997, Oct 24
1 None: Cause of Duplicates is a mystery by dlaliberte@gte.com, 1997, Oct 24
302 Note: Interesting Chinese Forums & Message Boards In Malaysia !!! by Informer, 1997, Oct 24
305 Question: HyperNews bases message systems by Dan Willett, 1997, Oct 26
307 Question: Images in Messages by Raymond Hines, 1997, Oct 27
308 Question: So does the e-mail gateway work? , 1997, Oct 28
311 Sad: "connection timed out"??? by Luis Torres, 1997, Nov 06
1 Question: same problem by eric@serv1.ncte.org, 1998, Jan 03
321 News: Russain HyperNews by Sergei Parinov, 1998, Jan 19
325 Sad: Is this still available by Clark Beeston, 1998, Mar 05
330 Question: HyperNews and Lotus Domino Go by John Gamble, 1998, Mar 18
1 Feedback: Solved Problem by cs51tg@surrey.ac.uk, 1999, Jun 03
331 Question: Looking for law discussions , 1998, Mar 19
337 Question: question by mauro ussoc, 1998, May 18
1 Feedback: depends... by Ralf Gerlich, 1998, May 21
2 Feedback: of course! by Sergio Moran, 1999, Oct 26
1 Ok: what a great way of collaborating! by smoran@ing.puc.cl, 1999, Oct 26
... 1 Message(s)
338 Question: "this week" and "today" icons posted after subject lines by Kandice Jones, 1998, Jun 04
1 None: They changed the "new", "newer", "newest" icons by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Jun 04
340 Question: Hypernews as advisement tool by Joyce B. Maxwell, 1998, Jun 11
342 Question: Hypernews with a CGI-BIN but no server side... HELP ME! by Reed, C., 1998, Jun 17
343 None: HyperNews won't authenticate me for password reset , 1998, Jun 22
345 Question: Status NT version of Hypernews by Leo Plugge, 1998, Jun 23
353 Question: Accessing a HyperNews server for our own purposes by Christina, 1998, Jul 07
354 Question: HyperNews and Year 2000 by Devik Lansing, 1998, Jul 07
1 None: HyperNews 1.9.6 and later are better regarding 2000 by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Jul 07
358 None: Can I change the article list's order? , 1998, Aug 17
368 Question: creating foruns by André, 1998, Oct 19
1 Agree: Untitled , 1999, Feb 19
(_ Warning: What HyperNews needs is a terrible-English-filter !!! , 1999, Jun 14
369 Question: Ways to find out all Sub-forum of HyperNews by Behzad Barzideh, 1998, Oct 19
1 None: There is a way to list the subforums automatically now - untested. by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1998, Oct 19
378 None: Stupid , 1998, Nov 20
379 Question: Adding messages to the bottom of a static HTML page by Brian Kelly, 1999, Jan 14
1 None: Reference page from forum via URL by liberte@emancholl.pair.com, 1999, Jan 15
400 Warning: is security subforum working? , 1999, Feb 25
401 Question: Please help me get started by msaund6, 1999, Mar 03
1 None: Installing is not simple yet by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Mar 04
402 Question: no messages to me , 1999, Mar 05
1 None: Wrong forum doesn't help by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Mar 06
405 Ok: Keep up the great work, Daniel LaLiberte! by Alfred Charles, 1999, Mar 30
1 Agree: HyperNews by egbert.schroer@degussa-huels.de, 1999, Nov 08
424 Question: What hardware are people running their HyperNews servers on? by Denny De La Haye, 1999, Jun 17
433 Question: The number of messages posted on the site... by Cag Onganer, 1999, Aug 02
1 None: See NumMessages in ,urc files. by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Aug 02
2 None: Number of messages posted, includding replies by webmaster@campus.ruv.itesm.mx, 1999, Nov 26
450 Note: mod-perl , 1999, Oct 12
1 None: re: mod_perl by steve@mclurkin.com, 1999, Oct 18
452 None: Help with some desired additions.. by John, 1999, Nov 01
1 None: Relatively easy additions by liberte@hypernews.org, 1999, Nov 05
457 Question: blank icons by Limbourg, 1999, Dec 07 [Moved]
458 Question: How to get involve in the kernel project. by Guo taoyi, 1999, Dec 08
460 News: HyperNews at WIRESCRIPT by WIRESCRIPT, 1999, Dec 15
465 Question: Java Chat Server by indyc, 2000, Jan 22
1 None: How about integrating HyperNews with Chat? by Daniel LaLiberte, 2000, Jan 24
2 Note: Re: Java chat by John, 2000, Jan 27
472 Question: Query about other forums by Saurabh Maheshwari, 2000, Feb 04
475 Question: next release of hypernews -- hyperteach by Franco Bagnoli, 2000, Mar 09
1 None: File upload needed more and more by liberte@hypernews.org, 2000, Mar 14
(_ None: Re: File upload needed more and more by bagnoli@dma.unifi.it, 2000, Mar 15
483 News: HyperNews Forums on WIRESCRIPT , 2000, Apr 15
487 Question: Deleting a forum by Teresa Feck, 2000, Jun 23
1 None: Use shell to rm the forum. by liberte@hypernews.org, 2000, Jun 23
499 Feedback: HyperNews giving error messages. One message lists: Please report this bug! by Paula Miller, 2000, Oct 12
503 Question: HTML or XML? , 2000, Nov 27
1 Feedback: maybe better but different by E, 2000, Nov 28
559 None: Testing , 2001, Apr 18
561 Question: smtpmail by Christophe Delarue, 2001, May 17
562 Question: Status of Hypernews Development by David McIntyre, 2001, May 21
1 None: HyperNews/HoloNexus plans by Daniel LaLiberte, 2001, May 22
565 News: I will install Hyper News by Joe, 2001, Jun 09
574 Question: Seperate HyperNews Installations - move messages by Michael, 2001, Aug 23
1 None: Should work, if path inside hndocs is the same by Daniel LaLiberte, 2001, Aug 30
584 News: D3E: document-centered HyperNews discussions by D3E Project, 2001, Nov 12
586 Idea: access problems by earnest, 2001, Nov 28
589 Question: D3e Hypernews vs Hypernews by global, 2002, Feb 11
601 Question: [SYS 32] Broken pipe file Name: /var/opt/openmail/sys/unixmap.out , 2003, Sep 30
608 None: interest by James Mekpongsatorn, 2004, Apr 19
658 None: Nice! by Felix, 2007, Oct 22 [Moved]
660 Note: looking for relatives by eugene laliberte, Jul 05, 18:11

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